A computer engineer investigates the secretive quantum computing development division in her company, which she believes was behind the disappearance of her boyfriend.
By filmmaker Alex Garland, who has made a name for himself over the past few years with films such as Ex Machina and Annihilation.
But the thing is, the computer would have to calculate the infinite possibilties, which surely would take an infinite about of time to do??? And then, if somehow it did manage to record all of history and every new infiinite timeline, I am supposed to believe that this computer was capable of showing every single event on video screen the events as they happened, or were going to happen. Just too much of a leap for me. I guess I'm over-thinking it :)
The show does, of course, not hold up to the science, but a good bit better than you are giving it credit for.
What you may have missed is that the kind of machine they are working with are not computers but quantum computers. It is a common misconception that they are simply the same, just better and faster; no, they work based on an entirely different understanding of physics, on a level where reality as we understand it becomes meaningless. Seriously, look into it, it is fascinating stuff, and they already exist.
Within the story, they are trying to use some of these effects to emulate an object (dead rat) in its entirety and just so happen to notice they can somehow derive the rest of the universe from it. Not very likely, but not neccessarily impossible either and, at any rate, the one belief that needs to be suspended here.
This show was really nice. They did good work on atmosphere, pretty much every scene seemed to invoke exactly the kind of impression it was supposed to on me. There were a number of things I wanted to criticize at first, and still I ended up no longer wanting to later, because it managed to make up for it almost every time.
Still, a few things:
Somehow, despite almost every character being a software engineer and/or physicist of some form, somehow they keep having to explain the extremely basic concept of determinism. This seemed odd to me.
A personal pet peeve here: determinism and free will are not opposites. Even if every decision you will ever make is already known, you are still the one who makes them. The future is made up of decisions you will quite simply have already made by then. The show seemed to at least implicitly agree with me there by painting it as the evil thing to live by, but maybe in the end it did not and just wanted to go with plain old "no, you always can choose (somehow)".
graybags said:
I enjoyed the surreal atmosphere of this series.
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Translation for you, then: "Show looked good, sounded interesting and had some interesting ideas. Everything was kinda weird."
I pretty much agree with Asteria.
by lighton posted 4 years ago
graybags said:
Plonker? Are you from London in the 1980's? :rolleyes:
No, but I visited London in the late 1980s. :D
by Asteria posted 4 years ago
lighton said:
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Hi Asteria, glad you enjoyed it too. Don't mind graybags, he's just a friendly plonker. ;) :cool:
I'm not a native English speaker, so I will pretend that I don't understand. :cool: :D
I like science fiction and give every science fiction series at least a try. :)
by graybags posted 4 years ago
lighton said:
I enjoyed the surreal atmosphere of this series.
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Hi Asteria, glad you enjoyed it too. Don't mind graybags, he's just a friendly plonker. ;) :cool:
Plonker? Are you from London in the 1980's? :rolleyes:
by lighton posted 4 years ago
graybags said:
I enjoyed the surreal atmosphere of this series.
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Hi Asteria, glad you enjoyed it too. Don't mind graybags, he's just a friendly plonker. ;) :cool:
by graybags posted 4 years ago
Asteria said:
I enjoyed the surreal atmosphere of this series.
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
by Asteria posted 4 years ago
I enjoyed the surreal atmosphere of this series.
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
by lighton posted 4 years ago
Cool :)
by vapdne posted 4 years ago
Sorry about that spoiler thing guys. I will be more careful, promise
by lighton posted 4 years ago
scorpius074 said:
Alex Garland has indicated that there will not be a second season of Devs. Instead, there's a possibility that the cast may be reuniting in the future for an entirely different project.
This was the second straight series I've seen that has held my interest in as many weeks. I finished Messiah the same week the final episode of Devs dropped and ended up binging that in two days' time. Am I on course for a hat-trick? I plan on starting Into the Night, later on tonight.
Maybe I should consult with lighton on what to watch next after that? :D
:D I'm happy that I got to introduce all three shows here in the forums, the first two being the best I've 'recently' watched for sure! https://next-episode.net/into-the-night is also totally recommended, albeit slightly less great. I've got no more "must watch" recommendations lined up at this point though. :cool:
scorpius074 said:
The reason why I hid that behind spoiler tags is because I had no idea about the true meaning/spelling of the word. I think it was around episode seven or eight that it was mentioned. I didn't watch or read any Garland interviews and inside specials pertaining to Devs before diving in, so I was blissfully oblivious to the notion. I wanted to show the same respect for anyone watching Devs for the first time.
Well said... for me that was the main spoiler of the show! :) Hadn't thought about that possible resolution for a second. :)
But the thing is, the computer would have to calculate the infinite possibilties, which surely would take an infinite about of time to do??? And then, if somehow it did manage to record all of history and every new infiinite timeline, I am supposed to believe that this computer was capable of showing every single event on video screen the events as they happened, or were going to happen. Just too much of a leap for me. I guess I'm over-thinking it :)
The show does, of course, not hold up to the science, but a good bit better than you are giving it credit for.
What you may have missed is that the kind of machine they are working with are not computers but quantum computers. It is a common misconception that they are simply the same, just better and faster; no, they work based on an entirely different understanding of physics, on a level where reality as we understand it becomes meaningless. Seriously, look into it, it is fascinating stuff, and they already exist.
Within the story, they are trying to use some of these effects to emulate an object (dead rat) in its entirety and just so happen to notice they can somehow derive the rest of the universe from it. Not very likely, but not neccessarily impossible either and, at any rate, the one belief that needs to be suspended here.
This show was really nice. They did good work on atmosphere, pretty much every scene seemed to invoke exactly the kind of impression it was supposed to on me. There were a number of things I wanted to criticize at first, and still I ended up no longer wanting to later, because it managed to make up for it almost every time.
Still, a few things:
Somehow, despite almost every character being a software engineer and/or physicist of some form, somehow they keep having to explain the extremely basic concept of determinism. This seemed odd to me.
A personal pet peeve here: determinism and free will are not opposites. Even if every decision you will ever make is already known, you are still the one who makes them. The future is made up of decisions you will quite simply have already made by then. The show seemed to at least implicitly agree with me there by painting it as the evil thing to live by, but maybe in the end it did not and just wanted to go with plain old "no, you always can choose (somehow)".
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Translation for you, then: "Show looked good, sounded interesting and had some interesting ideas. Everything was kinda weird."
I pretty much agree with Asteria.
No, but I visited London in the late 1980s. :D
Hi Asteria, glad you enjoyed it too. Don't mind graybags, he's just a friendly plonker. ;) :cool:
I'm not a native English speaker, so I will pretend that I don't understand. :cool: :D
I like science fiction and give every science fiction series at least a try. :)
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Hi Asteria, glad you enjoyed it too. Don't mind graybags, he's just a friendly plonker. ;) :cool:
Plonker? Are you from London in the 1980's? :rolleyes:
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
Hi Asteria, glad you enjoyed it too. Don't mind graybags, he's just a friendly plonker. ;) :cool:
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Us English have a word to describe everything you just said. "Bollocks". :)
The photography was beautiful, the choice of music unusual and the ideas very interesting and thought-provoking. :)
Ah... interesting idea. Kinda like https://next-episode.net/american-horror-story supposedly does it, using more or less the same cast in different roles each season.
Maybe I should consult with lighton on what to watch next after that? :D
:D I'm happy that I got to introduce all three shows here in the forums, the first two being the best I've 'recently' watched for sure! https://next-episode.net/into-the-night is also totally recommended, albeit slightly less great. I've got no more "must watch" recommendations lined up at this point though. :cool:
Well said... for me that was the main spoiler of the show! :) Hadn't thought about that possible resolution for a second. :)