a alternative fantasy take on "what if russians won the space race
It glorifies a brutal regime which measured dicks while the population was rationing food. And all that stuff was made with stolen bits and pieces and what a surprise, gulag style labor also was involved. It's American vomit to sell lunatic feminism, which nobody can check, because Americans have a hard time even finding it on the map, but the hilarious reality is that USSR had DEI style stuff before it was cool, but with asterisks that no women had actual power, whole top of the party had a very round number of women. And after that house of cards fell together with an artificial DEI and there were no mandatory quotas, literally in 2 years they naturally dropped 2-3x. So, the authors probably believe that bs that was just for show (like literally everything in USSR) and on that tried to base "the greener grass".
It's 1 cm away from pushing nazi Germany actually was cool.
Asked robot to sum up domestic violence against women USA vs USSR:
In simple terms: women in the USSR generally had it worse.
Domestic violence was widespread in both countries, but in the USSR it was officially denied, rarely punished, and much harder to escape due to housing shortages, lack of shelters, censorship, and heavy alcohol abuse. In the US, abuse was also long ignored, but women had more legal recognition, growing activism, and increasing exit options by the 1970s–80s.
Oops. Если бёт, значит лыбит (tm). Hilarious attempt to try to sell the potential bright future that was lost. Next up Adolf was a pacifist.
by SgtSaint posted 2 weeks ago
Abnorm wrote:
Don't expect a new Expanse, that show is probably the best scifi series so far in the mid-2010s, its at my all-time top 10.
Oye, Beltalowda!
aye... Sesa ka. Bossmang speak truth.
We'll probably never see another Expanse grade show again. Hollywood isn't geared for making good shows anymore. Or shows with a story arc. Everything now is 8-10 episodes every 24-48 months. And there's no arc: Its 10 episode anthology like Strange New Worlds where its 1 musical, 1 fantasy, 1 comedy and so on.
The days of a Firefly... Battlestar... Babylon 5... The Expanse... are all behind us. That's why its important to have that all on hard media at home because one day it won't be on any of the streamers, because they don't want it making the current crop of 2037 shows looking bad.
by Abnorm posted 3 weeks ago
Easycore wrote:
Is this show just the drama drama, or does it have some aspects of adventure or even action? I see someone mentioned its not as good as the expanse, and I loved expanse, but I don't know if its worth to start watching this now and invest this much time in (5 seasons and all).
Thanks!
This is nothing like The Expanse, two widely different genres. Yes there are action elements here too, but its a alternative fantasy take on "what if russians won the space race". Its not a 10/10 more like a 8/10 with some episodes in the 6/10-range, but overall its interesting, engaging and well executed. If you like space stuff, its a must watch.
Don't expect a new Expanse, that show is probably the best scifi series so far in the mid-2010s, its at my all-time top 10.
Oye, Beltalowda!
by g371 posted 3 weeks ago
Easycore wrote:
Is this show just the drama drama, or does it have some aspects of adventure or even action? I see someone mentioned its not as good as the expanse, and I loved expanse, but I don't know if its worth to start watching this now and invest this much time in (5 seasons and all).
Thanks!
Not just drama, drama that sucks. I dropped this abomination in S01.
Not counting a steaming pile of other stuff, in this show is one more hilarious American interpretation of USSR. The show authors managed to portray USSR bs propaganda as the holy grail :D
by Easycore posted 3 weeks ago
Is this show just the drama drama, or does it have some aspects of adventure or even action? I see someone mentioned its not as good as the expanse, and I loved expanse, but I don't know if its worth to start watching this now and invest this much time in (5 seasons and all).
Thanks!
by SgtSaint posted 1 month ago
I was in complete agreement with you right up to the last line:
some_one wrote:
It's just all around better for the industry this way. It's slightly annoying for us viewers, but we do also get a lot more different things to watch in return.
• It's just all around better for the industry this way.
No. Its better for the actor's wallet. Instead of a million a year they can make three. "The industry" on the other hand... You'd have to show me something really convincing for that metric. Because the work crews don't have as stable of income trying to be on 3 shows of 10 eps as they were when the carpenters et.al. were attached to a single show all year every year. Now its mostly "Short attention-span theater" for the TikTok generation.
• we do also get a lot more different things to watch in return.
But most them aren't anywhere near as great to watch. More variety of "so-so" shows and less "can't wait" shows. I'd rather have half as many shows that are much better. Compare Star Trek TNG or DS9 with its richer stories, longer plot arcs... hell they HAVE plot arcs... to something like Star Trek Strange New Worlds with its anthology format of 1 comedy, 1 musical, 1 fantasy, 1 action {...} but zero story arc. We'll never see something akin to the DS9 arc of the Jem Hadar war in any of these 10 episode shorts. Or a Battlestar Galactica, or a Babylon 5. Now they are all just Black Mirror type shows that happen to have all 10 episodes in the same place but otherwise almost no connection.
by some_one posted 1 month ago
SgtSaint wrote:
Not wrong. I come from an age where we had 24 episodes per season, and they started every year in September.
Now its 10 episodes every 24 months. Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Seems like all this new technology for greater special effects is REALLY REALLY inefficient. Less than half the episodes with 4x the time to make them. Makes you wish they went back to the tech from Star Trek The Next Generation: Funny how they got all those shows out on time every year.
It's not about the effects at all. It's about scheduling. Back in the day, an actor signing on for a show would be doing only that for the next who knows how many years. To ever move up in pay grade would mean to either become really valuable to the producers of that show, or to drop out and find something else. There's a reason why there used to be "movie" and "TV" actors, with being in the former category usually being equated to being successful.
These days, you see actors who have been at the top of the business for literally decades suddenly doing their first starring roles on TV shows. That's because the shorter seasons that are not released every year simply mean that they can be involved in many projects at once, rather than having to have one of them be their entire job. It's also a benefit for actors starting out, because they can use the fact that they are currently well-known for a role in one project to promote other side projects, thus avoiding to get stuck with one role.
It's just all around better for the industry this way. It's slightly annoying for us viewers, but we do also get a lot more different things to watch in return.
by SgtSaint posted 1 month ago
lassegoa wrote:
2years waiting now...is this a joke...
Not wrong. I come from an age where we had 24 episodes per season, and they started every year in September.
Now its 10 episodes every 24 months. Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Seems like all this new technology for greater special effects is REALLY REALLY inefficient. Less than half the episodes with 4x the time to make them. Makes you wish they went back to the tech from Star Trek The Next Generation: Funny how they got all those shows out on time every year.
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It glorifies a brutal regime which measured dicks while the population was rationing food. And all that stuff was made with stolen bits and pieces and what a surprise, gulag style labor also was involved. It's American vomit to sell lunatic feminism, which nobody can check, because Americans have a hard time even finding it on the map, but the hilarious reality is that USSR had DEI style stuff before it was cool, but with asterisks that no women had actual power, whole top of the party had a very round number of women. And after that house of cards fell together with an artificial DEI and there were no mandatory quotas, literally in 2 years they naturally dropped 2-3x. So, the authors probably believe that bs that was just for show (like literally everything in USSR) and on that tried to base "the greener grass".
It's 1 cm away from pushing nazi Germany actually was cool.
Asked robot to sum up domestic violence against women USA vs USSR:
Domestic violence was widespread in both countries, but in the USSR it was officially denied, rarely punished, and much harder to escape due to housing shortages, lack of shelters, censorship, and heavy alcohol abuse. In the US, abuse was also long ignored, but women had more legal recognition, growing activism, and increasing exit options by the 1970s–80s.
Oops. Если бёт, значит лыбит (tm). Hilarious attempt to try to sell the potential bright future that was lost. Next up Adolf was a pacifist.
Don't expect a new Expanse, that show is probably the best scifi series so far in the mid-2010s, its at my all-time top 10.
Oye, Beltalowda!
aye... Sesa ka. Bossmang speak truth.
We'll probably never see another Expanse grade show again. Hollywood isn't geared for making good shows anymore. Or shows with a story arc. Everything now is 8-10 episodes every 24-48 months. And there's no arc: Its 10 episode anthology like Strange New Worlds where its 1 musical, 1 fantasy, 1 comedy and so on.
The days of a Firefly... Battlestar... Babylon 5... The Expanse... are all behind us. That's why its important to have that all on hard media at home because one day it won't be on any of the streamers, because they don't want it making the current crop of 2037 shows looking bad.
Thanks!
This is nothing like The Expanse, two widely different genres. Yes there are action elements here too, but its a alternative fantasy take on "what if russians won the space race". Its not a 10/10 more like a 8/10 with some episodes in the 6/10-range, but overall its interesting, engaging and well executed. If you like space stuff, its a must watch.
Don't expect a new Expanse, that show is probably the best scifi series so far in the mid-2010s, its at my all-time top 10.
Oye, Beltalowda!
Thanks!
Not just drama, drama that sucks. I dropped this abomination in S01.
Not counting a steaming pile of other stuff, in this show is one more hilarious American interpretation of USSR. The show authors managed to portray USSR bs propaganda as the holy grail :D
Thanks!
• It's just all around better for the industry this way.
No. Its better for the actor's wallet. Instead of a million a year they can make three. "The industry" on the other hand... You'd have to show me something really convincing for that metric. Because the work crews don't have as stable of income trying to be on 3 shows of 10 eps as they were when the carpenters et.al. were attached to a single show all year every year. Now its mostly "Short attention-span theater" for the TikTok generation.
• we do also get a lot more different things to watch in return.
But most them aren't anywhere near as great to watch. More variety of "so-so" shows and less "can't wait" shows. I'd rather have half as many shows that are much better. Compare Star Trek TNG or DS9 with its richer stories, longer plot arcs... hell they HAVE plot arcs... to something like Star Trek Strange New Worlds with its anthology format of 1 comedy, 1 musical, 1 fantasy, 1 action {...} but zero story arc. We'll never see something akin to the DS9 arc of the Jem Hadar war in any of these 10 episode shorts. Or a Battlestar Galactica, or a Babylon 5. Now they are all just Black Mirror type shows that happen to have all 10 episodes in the same place but otherwise almost no connection.
Now its 10 episodes every 24 months. Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Seems like all this new technology for greater special effects is REALLY REALLY inefficient. Less than half the episodes with 4x the time to make them. Makes you wish they went back to the tech from Star Trek The Next Generation: Funny how they got all those shows out on time every year.
It's not about the effects at all. It's about scheduling. Back in the day, an actor signing on for a show would be doing only that for the next who knows how many years. To ever move up in pay grade would mean to either become really valuable to the producers of that show, or to drop out and find something else. There's a reason why there used to be "movie" and "TV" actors, with being in the former category usually being equated to being successful.
These days, you see actors who have been at the top of the business for literally decades suddenly doing their first starring roles on TV shows. That's because the shorter seasons that are not released every year simply mean that they can be involved in many projects at once, rather than having to have one of them be their entire job. It's also a benefit for actors starting out, because they can use the fact that they are currently well-known for a role in one project to promote other side projects, thus avoiding to get stuck with one role.
It's just all around better for the industry this way. It's slightly annoying for us viewers, but we do also get a lot more different things to watch in return.
Not wrong. I come from an age where we had 24 episodes per season, and they started every year in September.
Now its 10 episodes every 24 months. Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Seems like all this new technology for greater special effects is REALLY REALLY inefficient. Less than half the episodes with 4x the time to make them. Makes you wish they went back to the tech from Star Trek The Next Generation: Funny how they got all those shows out on time every year.
Spin off series for this excellent show announced.