Couldn't disagree with you more on that, but that's ok - as you mentioned everyone got their own likes and dislikes.
I just can't think of any on-screen adaption so far, where the Jedi have been depicted as monsters.
In the original Star Wars trilogy we only had Ben Kenobi and Yoda from the previous generation left. No monsters there.
In the prequel trilogy and Clone Wars the Jedi surely were a bit too political and their military involvement was questionable. But I hardly would call them monsters there.
In Rebels we had Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra - no monsters there either.
It's good to see we're discussing and not arguing ;)
Anyways, to respond to your inquiry over where the 'Jedi Are Monsters' read came in... I feel like we didn't get that until Episode I. The original trilogy treated the Jedi as if they were errant knights with a soupçon of spiritualism mixed in. The prequels on the other hand showed us the bureaucracy, the lies, the ineptitude and the arrogance of the Jedi Order. From their suppression of emotions and kidnaping of children to the easy way they were manipulated into becoming mass murders instead of peacemakers.
Yes, the Jedi we followed, for the most part, were not bad folks and most, like Obi, had good intentions but we all know that intentions don't always lead where one expects. That is the case with just about every thing the Jedi did as an organization. I'm not even talking about 'badactors' like Pong Krell or, to a lesser extent, Barriss Offee but the actual institution where Ky Narec could die and his padawan fall without anyone knowing or all that Sifo-Dyas horse-hockey!
And personally I feel as though Mace was the biggest problem on the Jedi Council, he's also a huge part of Ani's turn to the dark side. If he'd been a gawddamned human being for a split second Palps might not've won... but I digress.
Now that is something we can agree on. Ahsoka is my favorite SW character as well. Her lightsaber duel with Maul in the 7th season of Clone Wars is the best duel imho.
The series Ahsoka was an atrocity. The moment when Sabine and Ezra reunite just destroyed me. I waited for that moment for so long and then it is that disappointing.
What really bothered me and ultimately why I feel the Ahsoka series didn't work for me, is that you could've done the whole first season in two episodes... The series spent soooooo much time reintroducing the characters that I was just bored. Maybe that worked for all those folks who never watched the animated series but I desperately wanted anything to happen. On top of which the fight scenes were basically garbage.
Not to mention, that from what we were shown for action it was clear that the Ahsoka of TCW and Rebels would've been able to take the live-action version of Ahsoka in a fight with her hands tired behind her back... which is nonsense, in so many ways. I feel it was an error for them not to have made the series animated. After all the wild stuff Ahsoka pulled off in the previous series she now seemed all-but powerless.
As for Ezra, IMO he's the worst character in all of the Star Wars but whether I liked him or not he totally should have been harder to find or maybe even have gone dark... that would have made the build up have some meaning otherwise it was just a bunch of capable folks getting the job of recuse done... Where's the drama? The stakes? The tension? There really wasn't any, it was just a slow chase and a bunch of board meetings punctuated by training and defeats.
It was just so aggressively Meeh! By the end it even seemed as though, you could watch the last ep of it and then just start season two when it comes out! That's not cool!
Back in the day, stuff like that didn't bother me as well. But with every show I add to my watchlist it keeps bothering me more and more.
Well I can feel you there, what I often find annoying is when a series leaves the logic of the story behind for the emotional story arc... like pretty much every MCU movie and series, for example. But sometimes the fun works so well you don't care so much for the fact that none of it adds up .
I'm not saying we can't want more or expect something better, however it just seem like many usually don't reach those highs. So, I set my expectations at an appropriate level before diving in and maybe that's the key. I'm not expecting Empire Strikes Back when I tune into SW... heck if it's better than The Phantom Menace it's practically prefect.
That being said, I do feel The Acolyte was much-much better than everything Disney has done in live-action for Star Wars... aside from Andor, that is. But these are just my opinions and I appreciate you sharing yours!
by WilliamDrakeMcGregor posted 3 months ago
TheFizza wrote:
Very much so... Annnnd yeah, the Jedi are monsters ... and they deserved to go down! Don't get me wrong it was a tragedy but-yeah they were awful and not as competent as Luke imagined back in '77.
To my mind this series accurately captures all the Jedi's misplaced arrogance pretty well.
Couldn't disagree with you more on that, but that's ok - as you mentioned everyone got their own likes and dislikes.
I just can't think of any on-screen adaption so far, where the Jedi have been depicted as monsters.
In the original Star Wars trilogy we only had Ben Kenobi and Yoda from the previous generation left. No monsters there.
In the prequel trilogy and Clone Wars the Jedi surely were a bit too political and their military involvement was questionable. But I hardly would call them monsters there.
In Rebels we had Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra - no monsters there either.
TheFizza wrote:
And despite Ahsoka being my absolute favorite Star Wars character, the series of the same name was just meeeh.
Now that is something we can agree on. Ahsoka is my favorite SW character as well. Her lightsaber duel with Maul in the 7th season of Clone Wars is the best duel imho.
The series Ahsoka was an atrocity. The moment when Sabine and Ezra reunite just destroyed me. I waited for that moment for so long and then it is that disappointing.
TheFizza wrote:
As for all the nitpicking you did there... yeah, none of that bothered me... I could reason out why things worked out the way they did without the mental gymnastics that seem to be bogging down your enjoyment. For instance, how did Venestra get in so quickly? They came in from above and used a different door or maybe cause the lift was fixed now by Osha it was easier or maybe it's just a show about space wizards and it's okay for it to just jump to some fun scenes.
Back in the day, stuff like that didn't bother me as well. But with every show I add to my watchlist it keeps bothering me more and more.
by TheFizza posted 3 months ago
WilliamDrakeMcGregor said:
OMG, now that was an excellent series... What a great ending and goodness was that Plagueis in that cave:cool:
Definitely the best live-action Jedi show Disney has made so far annnnnd possibly the best live-action anything to do with the Jedi they've done period... IMO, that is =D
Are you serious? This show is the worst portrayal of the Jedi I have ever seen. Live action or otherwise. The way they are portrayed makes them look as stupid as regular battle droids.
If we are talking best portrayal of a Jedi in a live action tv series than it's Luke Skywalkers very brief appearance in The Mandalorian. Not much there but still a thousand times better than here.
Very much so... Annnnd yeah, theJediaremonsters ... and they deserved to go down! Don't get me wrong it was a tragedy but-yeah they were awful and not as competent as Luke imagined back in '77.
To my mind this series accurately captures all the Jedi's misplaced arrogance pretty well.
Speaking to that, one of the things which low-key always bothered me about the prequels was that viewer never really get an understanding of what Palpatine had against the Jedi?! I mean, yeah-sure he wanted to take over and they were in his way but it did feel as though there was some animosity the actor was playing which we never get an understanding of :/
As for the The Mandalorian, I really didn't care for it... I've seen Spaghetti Westerns and Samurai movies, some good stuff.... that poor man's Firefly was not, tho... and it was a weird flex to have Baby Yoda murder unborn children!?
So-yeah, I'd have to disagree with UncannyValley Luke being a cool moment. To me it was a low point in the franchise.
And despite Ahsoka being my absolute favorite Star Wars character, the series of the same name was just meeeh.
As for all the nitpicking you did there... yeah, none of that bothered me... I could reason out why things worked out the way they did without the mental gymnastics that seem to be bogging down your enjoyment. For instance, how did Venestra get in so quickly? They came in from above and used a different door or maybe cause the lift was fixed now by Osha it was easier or maybe it's just a showaboutspacewizards and it's okay for it to just jump to some fun scenes.
Art is subjective and from my perspective it is fine if folks do not like something I did but none of what you pointed out stopped me from absolutely loving this series and hoping for 'six seasons and a movie' ;)
by WilliamDrakeMcGregor posted 3 months ago
Finally the final, all the answers we were looking for, right? NO.
None of the important questions were answered in the end, only a minor hint (cave) about what's the cause of all.
My conclusion is, this show was a very good idea and had a great premise. The execution was just terrible.
Then we get so much nonsense thrown at us that I have to think they forgot in the next episode what happened in the previous one.
Every revelation in this show was predictable.
So the helmet blocks Jedi from reading or controlling the Strangers mind, but when Osha wears it she can have a mental impact on the Stranger? Does that metal only work one way?
Once again, Master Sol is just the stupidest idiot I have ever seen. And he is so emotional. Sure, restrain her but leave her droid. Come one, he is a Jedi Master - he can't be that stupid.... why does this show hate Jedi so much...
So instead of finally bringing in the head of the Jedi Council to question Venestra's ongoing investigation, they bring in a Senator who hasn't shown up before. From what I can tell she is just a "regular" Jedi Master. I would think everything between Senate and Jedi Temple would go through the Jedi Council.
At the end we finally get to see Yoda...but does she think she can fool Yoda?
The Stranger...from great evil to lapdog for Osha...I don't know how else to say this but: when did he loose his balls?!
Wasn't the egg shaped thing in the middle of the fortress their power source? How does connecting a few wires in a console then reactivate that lift?
And Venestra uses the force to open the lift doors? Does she also move the lift all the way up with the force?
That duel between Sol and the Stranger....does it look great?, yes it does. Assuming every Jedi can fight like that, the Stranger would've had his ass kicked in EP05...
Than the worst moment in lightsaber-duel history I have ever seen. Stranger and Sol cross blades with the blades on the wrong sides...yes, they hold each other forearms locked in position, but a simple movement of the wrist would still be possible. That would be all it takes for a a head to role.
Then he throws away his lightsaber after it is cut, but the tiny saber would still work, wouldn't it?
The fight between Mae and Osha...so Osha hasn't trained in years and they both had different teachers. But somehow they had the except same capability and style....must be the hair that makes them sync up.
How do both the Stranger and Osha suddenly disappear like that? I mean Osha and Mae were standing directly in front of each other with maybe 5 feet inbetween. Even if you look up, you would still notice the motion happening in front of you.
The lightsaber turning red, that is probably my absolute favorite moment of the entire show. I always wanted to see that on screen.
12 Jedi arrive, see one Jedi lying dead on the ground - 10 / 12 couldn't give a crap... They don't even acknowledge that he lies on the ground.
I now "normal" Jedi don't get emotional about another Jedis death but still, some form of reaction is necessary. Yes, I remember Obi Wan after QuiGon died, but he was still a padawan back then. Here we have a Jedi Master and Jedi Knights.
Side note: Anyone remember the trailer "Return" for the game Star Wars The Old Republic. The master dies and the Padawan felt the disturbance in the force. She briefly closes her eyes and then moves on. Imho the best reaction from a Jedi to another Jedis death I have seen so far.
It's always fascinating to see a memory wipe when the thing or person they are supposed to forget is still right in front of them. Is there a buffer period? The next 2 hours are included in the wipe?
Everyone knew that Venestra was suspicious, right? It was pretty obvious from like the second time we saw her in the show.
Let's put this one to rest and hope the next Star Wars show will be better :)
OMG, now that was an excellent series... What a great ending and goodness was that
▼Spoiler
cool
Definitely the best live-action Jedi show Disney has made so far annnnnd possibly the best live-action anything to do with the Jedi they've done period... IMO, that is big_smile
Are you serious? This show is the worst portrayal of the Jedi I have ever seen. Live action or otherwise. The way they are portrayed makes them look as stupid as regular battle droids.
If we are talking best portrayal of a Jedi in a live action tv series than it's Luke Skywalkers very brief appearance in The Mandalorian. Not much there but still a thousand times better than here.
Daemonius wrote:
Season 2nd coming is there?
No decision has been made afaik.
by Daemonius posted 3 months ago
Season 2nd coming is there?
by TheFizza posted 3 months ago
OMG, now that was an excellent series... What a great ending and goodness was that Plagueis in that cave:cool:
Definitely the best live-action Jedi show Disney has made so far annnnnd possibly the best live-action anything to do with the Jedi they've done period... IMO, that is =D
by WilliamDrakeMcGregor posted 3 months ago
I decided to push through to the end.
Episode 7, on of the other sides of the story. It was...laughable.
It starts with the Jedi's mission on the planet Brendok. Apparently that planet was a wasteland and it suddenly became inhabitable with flora and fauna. The cause is a "vergence" of the force.
So after seven weeks on investigating they are seen taking sample of plants and apparently looking for treasures with a metal detector.
Really? I wonder...did they start off with a planetary scan or something like that? Did they do an aerial survey of the planet? How did they miss the giant fortress in the mountain we have seen in EP03.
Or, instead of collecting samples, maybe they should meditate...
Than something happens that bothers me in every movie, tv show, etc. I have ever seen. You ring a doorbell and wait what, 5 seconds?? No one answers and you decide to climb through a window.
Anyone who has ever answered a doorbell knows it takes more than five seconds to come to the door.... that little detail annoys me every time.
"They do not treat the girls as children" - what in the actual f is he talking about. The same thing we saw him observing (for 5 minutes) happens in the Jedi temple. Even much much more of that. That argument doesn't make any sense at all.
"Night sisters don't raise younglings" - everything they are saying is stupid. Of course night sisters have to be born and raised and also trained. Or are they like Rey and can do everything perfectly from the beginning?
Breaking and entering...sure why not. Doesn't come off as hostile at all. Who are the bad guys again? I know the answer of the showrunners by now.
So...how is Aniseya doing that? Having a conversation with Indara and at the same time infiltrating Torbins mind?
How is she turning his eyes black? And why is she doing that? In this episode it started way earlier, where the kids weren't even mentioned yet.
Again...what makes Osha want to become a Jedi? She met four of them and apart from the cool lightsaber there was nothing happening that could've left an impression.
How did Sol ever become a Jedi...from everything we see in this episode he is even less suited for it than Osha is.
So they make every indication to make it look like Torbin is being manipulated by Aniseya and in the end they make the incredible plot twist that it's actually Kelnacca...and that he is manipulated by the power of many?
So somewhere inbetween, Koril went behind Aniseya's back and convinced everyone in the cult to manipulate a Jedi....ok.
And all of a sudden Indara is stronger than the entire cult...but get's killed by a single knive to the chest.
I think before "The Force Awakens" Star Wars was pretty accurate and consistent with power levels...crazy how much that changed.
It bothers me that Kelnacca doesn't have any opinion of his own. Every decision and conversation in this episode is done between Indara and Sol. Even Torbin has more to say than the wookie.
I really thought they would show another cause for the fire to spread so fast and do so much damage...Guess stone really is an accelerator for fire.
So the bridge is about to collapse and Sol decides to hold it together with the force. He could've just grabbed the two little 40-60 pound girls with the force and levitated them over to him...
I really think Sol is the worst Jedi I have ever seen on screen so far.
And then they just leave...no further investigation of the "vergence", no search for survivors, nothing...
Nothing, absolutely nothing in this episode makes me think Torbin would've willingly taken that poison. Since this is the POV from the Jedi, I doubt we get a better reason..this is just not good enough.
Nothing, absolutely nothing in this episode makes me believe there was any good reason at all for the Jedi Council to allow Osha to become a Jedi...
On a side note...anybody else noticed how bored Carrie Ann Moss looked like?
by WilliamDrakeMcGregor posted 3 months ago
I spare the analysis of Episode 6 because, well I don't think anything actually happened here.
People walked around and had some talks who didn't lead to anything.
I think if you skip this episode you won't have missed a single thing of importance.
I loved this series... it was the best live-action Jedi related anything that Disney has given us, yet.
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Couldn't disagree with you more on that, but that's ok - as you mentioned everyone got their own likes and dislikes.
I just can't think of any on-screen adaption so far, where the Jedi have been depicted as monsters.
In the original Star Wars trilogy we only had Ben Kenobi and Yoda from the previous generation left. No monsters there.
In the prequel trilogy and Clone Wars the Jedi surely were a bit too political and their military involvement was questionable. But I hardly would call them monsters there.
In Rebels we had Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra - no monsters there either.
It's good to see we're discussing and not arguing ;)
Anyways, to respond to your inquiry over where the 'Jedi Are Monsters' read came in... I feel like we didn't get that until Episode I. The original trilogy treated the Jedi as if they were errant knights with a soupçon of spiritualism mixed in. The prequels on the other hand showed us the bureaucracy, the lies, the ineptitude and the arrogance of the Jedi Order. From their suppression of emotions and kidnaping of children to the easy way they were manipulated into becoming mass murders instead of peacemakers.
Yes, the Jedi we followed, for the most part, were not bad folks and most, like Obi, had good intentions but we all know that intentions don't always lead where one expects. That is the case with just about every thing the Jedi did as an organization. I'm not even talking about 'bad actors' like Pong Krell or, to a lesser extent, Barriss Offee but the actual institution where Ky Narec could die and his padawan fall without anyone knowing or all that Sifo-Dyas horse-hockey!
And personally I feel as though Mace was the biggest problem on the Jedi Council, he's also a huge part of Ani's turn to the dark side. If he'd been a gawddamned human being for a split second Palps might not've won... but I digress.
The series Ahsoka was an atrocity. The moment when Sabine and Ezra reunite just destroyed me. I waited for that moment for so long and then it is that disappointing.
What really bothered me and ultimately why I feel the Ahsoka series didn't work for me, is that you could've done the whole first season in two episodes... The series spent soooooo much time reintroducing the characters that I was just bored. Maybe that worked for all those folks who never watched the animated series but I desperately wanted anything to happen. On top of which the fight scenes were basically garbage.
Not to mention, that from what we were shown for action it was clear that the Ahsoka of TCW and Rebels would've been able to take the live-action version of Ahsoka in a fight with her hands tired behind her back... which is nonsense, in so many ways. I feel it was an error for them not to have made the series animated. After all the wild stuff Ahsoka pulled off in the previous series she now seemed all-but powerless.
As for Ezra, IMO he's the worst character in all of the Star Wars but whether I liked him or not he totally should have been harder to find or maybe even have gone dark... that would have made the build up have some meaning otherwise it was just a bunch of capable folks getting the job of recuse done... Where's the drama? The stakes? The tension? There really wasn't any, it was just a slow chase and a bunch of board meetings punctuated by training and defeats.
It was just so aggressively Meeh! By the end it even seemed as though, you could watch the last ep of it and then just start season two when it comes out! That's not cool!
Well I can feel you there, what I often find annoying is when a series leaves the logic of the story behind for the emotional story arc... like pretty much every MCU movie and series, for example. But sometimes the fun works so well you don't care so much for the fact that none of it adds up .
I'm not saying we can't want more or expect something better, however it just seem like many usually don't reach those highs. So, I set my expectations at an appropriate level before diving in and maybe that's the key. I'm not expecting Empire Strikes Back when I tune into SW... heck if it's better than The Phantom Menace it's practically prefect.
That being said, I do feel The Acolyte was much-much better than everything Disney has done in live-action for Star Wars... aside from Andor, that is. But these are just my opinions and I appreciate you sharing yours!
TheFizza wrote:
Very much so... Annnnd yeah, the Jedi are monsters ... and they deserved to go down! Don't get me wrong it was a tragedy but-yeah they were awful and not as competent as Luke imagined back in '77.
To my mind this series accurately captures all the Jedi's misplaced arrogance pretty well.
Couldn't disagree with you more on that, but that's ok - as you mentioned everyone got their own likes and dislikes.
I just can't think of any on-screen adaption so far, where the Jedi have been depicted as monsters.
In the original Star Wars trilogy we only had Ben Kenobi and Yoda from the previous generation left. No monsters there.
In the prequel trilogy and Clone Wars the Jedi surely were a bit too political and their military involvement was questionable. But I hardly would call them monsters there.
In Rebels we had Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra - no monsters there either.
TheFizza wrote:
And despite Ahsoka being my absolute favorite Star Wars character, the series of the same name was just meeeh.
Now that is something we can agree on. Ahsoka is my favorite SW character as well. Her lightsaber duel with Maul in the 7th season of Clone Wars is the best duel imho.
The series Ahsoka was an atrocity. The moment when Sabine and Ezra reunite just destroyed me. I waited for that moment for so long and then it is that disappointing.
TheFizza wrote:
As for all the nitpicking you did there... yeah, none of that bothered me... I could reason out why things worked out the way they did without the mental gymnastics that seem to be bogging down your enjoyment. For instance, how did Venestra get in so quickly? They came in from above and used a different door or maybe cause the lift was fixed now by Osha it was easier or maybe it's just a show about space wizards and it's okay for it to just jump to some fun scenes.
Back in the day, stuff like that didn't bother me as well. But with every show I add to my watchlist it keeps bothering me more and more.
Definitely the best live-action Jedi show Disney has made so far annnnnd possibly the best live-action anything to do with the Jedi they've done period... IMO, that is =D
Are you serious? This show is the worst portrayal of the Jedi I have ever seen. Live action or otherwise. The way they are portrayed makes them look as stupid as regular battle droids.
If we are talking best portrayal of a Jedi in a live action tv series than it's Luke Skywalkers very brief appearance in The Mandalorian. Not much there but still a thousand times better than here.
Very much so... Annnnd yeah, the Jedi are monsters ... and they deserved to go down! Don't get me wrong it was a tragedy but-yeah they were awful and not as competent as Luke imagined back in '77.
To my mind this series accurately captures all the Jedi's misplaced arrogance pretty well.
Speaking to that, one of the things which low-key always bothered me about the prequels was that viewer never really get an understanding of what Palpatine had against the Jedi?! I mean, yeah-sure he wanted to take over and they were in his way but it did feel as though there was some animosity the actor was playing which we never get an understanding of :/
As for the The Mandalorian, I really didn't care for it... I've seen Spaghetti Westerns and Samurai movies, some good stuff.... that poor man's Firefly was not, tho... and it was a weird flex to have Baby Yoda murder unborn children!?
So-yeah, I'd have to disagree with Uncanny Valley Luke being a cool moment. To me it was a low point in the franchise.
And despite Ahsoka being my absolute favorite Star Wars character, the series of the same name was just meeeh.
As for all the nitpicking you did there... yeah, none of that bothered me... I could reason out why things worked out the way they did without the mental gymnastics that seem to be bogging down your enjoyment. For instance, how did Venestra get in so quickly? They came in from above and used a different door or maybe cause the lift was fixed now by Osha it was easier or maybe it's just a show about space wizards and it's okay for it to just jump to some fun scenes.
Art is subjective and from my perspective it is fine if folks do not like something I did but none of what you pointed out stopped me from absolutely loving this series and hoping for 'six seasons and a movie' ;)
None of the important questions were answered in the end, only a minor hint (cave) about what's the cause of all.
My conclusion is, this show was a very good idea and had a great premise. The execution was just terrible.
Then we get so much nonsense thrown at us that I have to think they forgot in the next episode what happened in the previous one.
Every revelation in this show was predictable.
So the helmet blocks Jedi from reading or controlling the Strangers mind, but when Osha wears it she can have a mental impact on the Stranger? Does that metal only work one way?
Once again, Master Sol is just the stupidest idiot I have ever seen. And he is so emotional. Sure, restrain her but leave her droid. Come one, he is a Jedi Master - he can't be that stupid.... why does this show hate Jedi so much...
So instead of finally bringing in the head of the Jedi Council to question Venestra's ongoing investigation, they bring in a Senator who hasn't shown up before. From what I can tell she is just a "regular" Jedi Master. I would think everything between Senate and Jedi Temple would go through the Jedi Council.
At the end we finally get to see Yoda...but does she think she can fool Yoda?
The Stranger...from great evil to lapdog for Osha...I don't know how else to say this but: when did he loose his balls?!
Wasn't the egg shaped thing in the middle of the fortress their power source? How does connecting a few wires in a console then reactivate that lift?
And Venestra uses the force to open the lift doors? Does she also move the lift all the way up with the force?
That duel between Sol and the Stranger....does it look great?, yes it does. Assuming every Jedi can fight like that, the Stranger would've had his ass kicked in EP05...
Than the worst moment in lightsaber-duel history I have ever seen. Stranger and Sol cross blades with the blades on the wrong sides...yes, they hold each other forearms locked in position, but a simple movement of the wrist would still be possible. That would be all it takes for a a head to role.
Then he throws away his lightsaber after it is cut, but the tiny saber would still work, wouldn't it?
The fight between Mae and Osha...so Osha hasn't trained in years and they both had different teachers. But somehow they had the except same capability and style....must be the hair that makes them sync up.
How do both the Stranger and Osha suddenly disappear like that? I mean Osha and Mae were standing directly in front of each other with maybe 5 feet inbetween. Even if you look up, you would still notice the motion happening in front of you.
The lightsaber turning red, that is probably my absolute favorite moment of the entire show. I always wanted to see that on screen.
12 Jedi arrive, see one Jedi lying dead on the ground - 10 / 12 couldn't give a crap... They don't even acknowledge that he lies on the ground.
I now "normal" Jedi don't get emotional about another Jedis death but still, some form of reaction is necessary. Yes, I remember Obi Wan after QuiGon died, but he was still a padawan back then. Here we have a Jedi Master and Jedi Knights.
Side note: Anyone remember the trailer "Return" for the game Star Wars The Old Republic. The master dies and the Padawan felt the disturbance in the force. She briefly closes her eyes and then moves on. Imho the best reaction from a Jedi to another Jedis death I have seen so far.
It's always fascinating to see a memory wipe when the thing or person they are supposed to forget is still right in front of them. Is there a buffer period? The next 2 hours are included in the wipe?
Everyone knew that Venestra was suspicious, right? It was pretty obvious from like the second time we saw her in the show.
Let's put this one to rest and hope the next Star Wars show will be better :)
OMG, now that was an excellent series... What a great ending and goodness was that
▼Spoiler
cool
Definitely the best live-action Jedi show Disney has made so far annnnnd possibly the best live-action anything to do with the Jedi they've done period... IMO, that is big_smile
Are you serious? This show is the worst portrayal of the Jedi I have ever seen. Live action or otherwise. The way they are portrayed makes them look as stupid as regular battle droids.
If we are talking best portrayal of a Jedi in a live action tv series than it's Luke Skywalkers very brief appearance in The Mandalorian. Not much there but still a thousand times better than here.
Daemonius wrote:
Season 2nd coming is there?
No decision has been made afaik.
Definitely the best live-action Jedi show Disney has made so far annnnnd possibly the best live-action anything to do with the Jedi they've done period... IMO, that is =D
Episode 7, on of the other sides of the story. It was...laughable.
It starts with the Jedi's mission on the planet Brendok. Apparently that planet was a wasteland and it suddenly became inhabitable with flora and fauna. The cause is a "vergence" of the force.
So after seven weeks on investigating they are seen taking sample of plants and apparently looking for treasures with a metal detector.
Really? I wonder...did they start off with a planetary scan or something like that? Did they do an aerial survey of the planet? How did they miss the giant fortress in the mountain we have seen in EP03.
Or, instead of collecting samples, maybe they should meditate...
Than something happens that bothers me in every movie, tv show, etc. I have ever seen. You ring a doorbell and wait what, 5 seconds?? No one answers and you decide to climb through a window.
Anyone who has ever answered a doorbell knows it takes more than five seconds to come to the door.... that little detail annoys me every time.
"They do not treat the girls as children" - what in the actual f is he talking about. The same thing we saw him observing (for 5 minutes) happens in the Jedi temple. Even much much more of that. That argument doesn't make any sense at all.
"Night sisters don't raise younglings" - everything they are saying is stupid. Of course night sisters have to be born and raised and also trained. Or are they like Rey and can do everything perfectly from the beginning?
Breaking and entering...sure why not. Doesn't come off as hostile at all. Who are the bad guys again? I know the answer of the showrunners by now.
So...how is Aniseya doing that? Having a conversation with Indara and at the same time infiltrating Torbins mind?
How is she turning his eyes black? And why is she doing that? In this episode it started way earlier, where the kids weren't even mentioned yet.
Again...what makes Osha want to become a Jedi? She met four of them and apart from the cool lightsaber there was nothing happening that could've left an impression.
How did Sol ever become a Jedi...from everything we see in this episode he is even less suited for it than Osha is.
So they make every indication to make it look like Torbin is being manipulated by Aniseya and in the end they make the incredible plot twist that it's actually Kelnacca...and that he is manipulated by the power of many?
So somewhere inbetween, Koril went behind Aniseya's back and convinced everyone in the cult to manipulate a Jedi....ok.
And all of a sudden Indara is stronger than the entire cult...but get's killed by a single knive to the chest.
I think before "The Force Awakens" Star Wars was pretty accurate and consistent with power levels...crazy how much that changed.
It bothers me that Kelnacca doesn't have any opinion of his own. Every decision and conversation in this episode is done between Indara and Sol. Even Torbin has more to say than the wookie.
I really thought they would show another cause for the fire to spread so fast and do so much damage...Guess stone really is an accelerator for fire.
So the bridge is about to collapse and Sol decides to hold it together with the force. He could've just grabbed the two little 40-60 pound girls with the force and levitated them over to him...
I really think Sol is the worst Jedi I have ever seen on screen so far.
And then they just leave...no further investigation of the "vergence", no search for survivors, nothing...
Nothing, absolutely nothing in this episode makes me think Torbin would've willingly taken that poison. Since this is the POV from the Jedi, I doubt we get a better reason..this is just not good enough.
Nothing, absolutely nothing in this episode makes me believe there was any good reason at all for the Jedi Council to allow Osha to become a Jedi...
On a side note...anybody else noticed how bored Carrie Ann Moss looked like?
People walked around and had some talks who didn't lead to anything.
I think if you skip this episode you won't have missed a single thing of importance.